tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post2981837060727715943..comments2024-03-06T03:34:02.844-05:00Comments on Werner von Wallenrod's Humble, Little Hip-Hop Blog: One Man's Ultramagnetic Treasure...Werner von Wallenrodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04102856408266833762noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-64159273794297286072014-09-04T20:00:41.055-04:002014-09-04T20:00:41.055-04:00$100 for a 7"!?!??!? Hopefully, the spund qua...$100 for a 7"!?!??!? Hopefully, the spund quality will match that price. Thank god for the euros and japanese market huh?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-45446357113414004422014-09-04T15:38:59.956-04:002014-09-04T15:38:59.956-04:00I appreciate your response Werner but like I said ...I appreciate your response Werner but like I said the original version of the instrumental that Ced and Keith layed vocals on was faster then the version that appeared on the Critical Beatdown. After the vocals were layed, they (Ultra & Paul C.) slowed the beat down and toned down on the Bass. This is the same way they originally recorded "MC Champions" (which are three different mixes) on demo and later slowed the track down for the "Funk Your Head Up" LP. IMO the track is not that muddy. I have played this throughout Europe this summer and it sounded great! It's not the original speed and clarity that appears on Critical Beatdown but it still is a classic in it's own right. You are totally entitled to your opinions and I have to respect that but when you start insinuating that this could be a possible "contemporary re-working" to almost fool people I have to chime in and correct that! I was just happy l just to have some work left behind of Paul C.'s and Ultra's sessions, let alone be able to release it!! I wanted to keep everything in tact how Paul C. left his art on tape, but still providing a quality product for the consumer. The first person to receive a copy of this record was Paul C's widow and she gave it thumbs up and it was all good!!<br /><br />Anytime you have a question or not sure please feel free to notify me and we can build on it!! <br /><br />Much love for the support of Black Pegasus!!<br /><br />Blackpegasusblog@gmail.comMarc Davishttp://www.blackpegasusmusic.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-30408024700517242092014-08-12T23:44:04.643-04:002014-08-12T23:44:04.643-04:00Civility lapse? Well, okay, I'll be mature and...Civility lapse? Well, okay, I'll be mature and won't tell you to "go fuck yourself" back. It's not a sentiment I'm feeling anyway, since I haven't got anything personally against anyone. Plus, it seems like some of your hostility may be based on a simple misunderstanding of what I've written here. So maybe if I clear it up, we'll all be on better terms?<br /><br />You said, "Nothing was rushed lyrically in the vocal booth either, so kill that noise!! Ced-Gee in particular was not into rushing records they took there time!!"<br /><br />I certainly wasn't saying anything was rushed in the vocal booth. The vocals sound excellent on the LP version. And these same vocals are simply playing too fast on this 7". In other words, the original vocals (as recorded in the booth) were perfect and I have no criticism of them. The playback of them has been sped up for this mix, and that's what I was referring to. As I said in the post we're commenting on, if you pitch the 7" down, you can get to the point where you hear the vocals sounding perfectly natural, as recorded. I certainly don't accuse Ced or any of the guys of rushing the recording of the song. The only time I use the word "rushed" is when I was referring to the effects of this mix, because they've been sped up for the version we hear on the 7"<br /> ...I'm sorry if that was a bit repetitive, but I wanted to be explicitly clear, as I could there was a misunderstanding in the first place.<br /><br />And I do thank you for explaining the Ves 120 credit. I appreciate Ves/ Pegasus did the best they could with what they had (as you say, without all the original elements separated on the board). Unfortunately, it still sounds bass heavy and muffled, and it's best played with the bass turned down, all as I wrote above. But it also sounds like you hear it too, so we're not on opposing sides of an argument here. I can only imagine how bad the recording was before it was worked on! And it's just a sad fact that it's the best available recording that we've got. Again, it sounds like we agree on all that. And I DO appreciate your clarifications on how this final mix came about.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm sorry to hear that about the price of the future records. If I could offer a contrary suggestion: Pegasus could increase the number of 7"s pressed (since we've seen how fast the first sold out) and keep the price the same, so more Ultra fans can get it without missing out, and Pegasus would still make more money. But it's all obviously out of my hands. I just hope (as I'm sure you do) that the sound quality is better on the upcoming entries!Werner von Wallenrodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04102856408266833762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-6262535451118209982014-08-12T18:55:09.332-04:002014-08-12T18:55:09.332-04:00Werner Von Wallenrod, let me explain to you about ...Werner Von Wallenrod, let me explain to you about this version of "Ain't It Good To You"!! Ves 120 is credited with additional edits on this Paul C. edit/mix which was soley produced by Ced-Gee & T.R. Love of UltraMagnetic MC'S. First of all this was a mix that was recorded by the Ultra's that was never intended to be released!! If you are a true historian of Ultra's official an unofficial releases you will remember the original version of "MC Champions" which (Tim Westwood played on Capital Radio in the U.K.) was much faster then the final version that appeared on the "Funk Your Head Up" album. They would sometimes demo a track and do it again and sometimes make changes!! Nothing was rushed lyrically in the vocal booth either, so kill that noise!! Ced-Gee in particular was not into rushing records they took there time!! The Critical Beatdown version was slower simply because they pitched down the SP1200, and re-tracked the beat and did a different mix which ended up on Critical Beatdown!! When this alternative version was presented to Black Pegasus, it was super bass heavy and slightly muffled!! Ves 120 took some of the bass out and cleaned it up so the mastering cut would not come out distorted, and would sound good on wax!! We wanted to keep Paul C.'s art the way he left it as much as possible!! This was a two track mix that was already mixed by the late great Paul C. If you know anything about engineering you will know you can't add drops to a two track mix the way Paul C. did it without having all the tracks separated on the board!! So please stop the guessing and speculating! Come to the source and find out and get the scoop first hand. If it weren't for T.R. Love you wouldn't have known this record exist!! Be thankful that Paul C. still had music with Ultra that could be shared with the world!! Record Collectors magazine in the U.K. praised this record for it's rawness and sold out in 3.5 weeks!! I have personally played this joint out in clubs with a major system and it bangs!! I see a lot of hate about the price, and it not being this and that! Go fuck yourself because Ultra & Paul C. are legends of hip hop!! You are not getting this shit for free or cheap!! You have to pay for it!! Wait until the next Ultra 7 joint drops, it's gonna cost $100 bucks a pop!! Now run tell that!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-66049706274557454722014-06-13T01:30:21.254-04:002014-06-13T01:30:21.254-04:00Yeah, that sounds pretty right to me... except why...Yeah, that sounds pretty right to me... except why does Ves 120 have credits for additional edits then?Werner von Wallenrodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04102856408266833762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532830659867404404.post-23782592432010037722014-06-12T20:38:26.638-04:002014-06-12T20:38:26.638-04:00I heard a digitized version of the record. I know ...I heard a digitized version of the record. I know exactly what you talking about. Here is the only logical explanation for this. <br /><br />What you got here is a "work in progress" version. They recorded the track and in the mid had to left the studio to get sleep. Someone, probably TR Love, asked for a tape recording of the song to take it home.<br /><br />Thats the reason for the bad recording I hear, it was recorded in the red, which is the reason for the distorded bass you mentioned.<br /><br />The next day the song was finished, thats when they added the missing percussion you mentioned. Than the final mix was done we all know.<br /><br />So this is a real version where Paul C was involved, otherwise ther must be some multiracks. But as far as I know they where destroyed in the fire that burnt down studio 1212.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com